La serie di Forza Motorsport

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La serie di Forza Motorsport

Messaggio da FBV-86 » lun 26 apr 2010, 0:12

Lololololololol, ok, non facciamo console war please, so che alcuni di noi armiani possiedono anche la X-Box oltre alla PS, e siccome FM è la più gustosa alternativa a quel gran capolavoro che è Gran Turismo, volevo sentire cosa ne pensate.

Io, essendo passato direttamente dalla PSX alla 360 non ho avuto modo di provare il primo capitolo di FM, ma sono stato felice di aver provato il secondo ed il terzo ( il terzo un pò meno per essere onesto, e pian piano che direte la vostra spiegherò anche il perchè )

Per il momento mi limito a dire che se siete dei motor-maniaci, questo titolo è un "must have" nella vostra selezione di videogiochi, specialmente FM2 il quale è forte di un campionamento sonoro PAZZESCO, un comportamento fisico delle auto sopra la media per un gioco da consolle, ed una resa grafica di alto livello senza quei fastidiosi sfarfallii ( si, è una parola vera ) delle immagini.

Sono curioso di sentire le vostre opinioni, anche perchè a tempo perso sto stendendo una bella lista ( rigorosamente in inglese ) dei migliorameti che si potrebbero apportare ad un ipotetico FM4, sarebbe grandioso poter condividerli con voi :good: :-)
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Messaggio da Revoltino » lun 26 apr 2010, 14:32

Mai provato.... :dubbi: Io ho visto solo la copertina del 2° e del 3°,e non sembrava un granchè neanche nelle descrizioni....
Mi ha colpito una cosa però:il fatto di cambiare tutto il motore di un auto e metterne uno totalmente diverso! :-? :confuso:
Sarà uno dei tanti giochi che andranno nella mia lista dei giochi da provare assolutamente... :-)
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Messaggio da Woozie » lun 26 apr 2010, 18:30

Io ho giocato all'uno e ricordo che mi era piaciuto un casino però non l'ho mai finito...
Ho finito GRID(altro grande gioco) e ora sto giocando a NFS Shift....
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Messaggio da Piereligio » lun 26 apr 2010, 18:38

Questi che dici tu sono arcade, woozie, GT e FM sono invece dei simulatori... tutta un'altra cosa.

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Messaggio da FBV-86 » mar 27 apr 2010, 13:14

revoltino ha scritto:Mai provato....sarà uno dei tanti giochi che andranno nella mia lista dei giochi da provare assolutamente... :-)
FM2 te lo consiglio perchè oramai è diventato un classico, e nuovo costa sulle 15 euro o anche meno in certi negozi, FM3 al massimo prendilo a noleggio, perchè non vale i 75 euro che costa :nero:

...se qualcuno vuole parlare di come migliorare FM3, io sono qua :mrgreen:
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Messaggio da Woozie » mar 27 apr 2010, 14:00

si lo so era cosi per dire comunque al primo ci ho giocato
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Messaggio da minibond » dom 9 mag 2010, 19:29

in effetti sono intenzionato a prendere FM 2 o 3, ma dato che dici così penso di orientarmi più sul 2...
Siccome il 2 l'ho provato, quali sono le principali differenze tra il 2 e il 3?

Ovviamente lo comprerò solo dopo aver riparato i 3 led rossi della XBox...

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Messaggio da Revoltino » dom 9 mag 2010, 19:51

FBV-86 ha scritto:FM2 te lo consiglio perchè oramai è diventato un classico, e nuovo costa sulle 15 euro o anche meno in certi negozi, FM3 al massimo prendilo a noleggio, perchè non vale i 75 euro che costa :nero:

...se qualcuno vuole parlare di come migliorare FM3, io sono qua :mrgreen:
No sai,è un altro il problema,oltre a questo....io non ho l'xBox :mrgreen:
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Messaggio da FBV-86 » sab 8 gen 2011, 23:15

minibond ha scritto:in effetti sono intenzionato a prendere FM 2 o 3, ma dato che dici così penso di orientarmi più sul 2...
Siccome il 2 l'ho provato, quali sono le principali differenze tra il 2 e il 3?

Ovviamente lo comprerò solo dopo aver riparato i 3 led rossi della XBox...
minibond ha scritto:in effetti sono intenzionato a prendere FM 2 o 3, ma dato che dici così penso di orientarmi più sul 2...
Siccome il 2 l'ho provato, quali sono le principali differenze tra il 2 e il 3?

Ovviamente lo comprerò solo dopo aver riparato i 3 led rossi della XBox...
:-( sorry per la latitanza...

Ecco una rapida lista di genialate che Turn10 ha fatto con FM3...

- Visuale interna per tutte le auto...
- Migliorate le oscillazione dinamiche delle telecamere...
- Parco auto leggermente più interessante, mancano un sacco di Alfa ed altre auto buone ma sottovalutate...
- Migliorato l'editor per i trapianti e conversioni, ora è possibile convertire separatamente tipo di motore, tipo di trazione e tipo di sovralimentazione.
- Migliorata la fedeltà di alcuni suoni, specialmente per quanto riguarda le Muscle Car americane ( :sbav: :sbav: )
- Aggiunta di un paio di piste interessanti...
- Motore fisico più flessibile, meno prono a castigare gli errori di guida ( questo può essere anche un contro )
- Editor di verniciatura più accurato, ora è possibile regolare la saturazione ed il contrasto delle tinte.

Ed ecco la lista delle vaccate...

- Mappatura dei modelli fatta alla c***o su alcune auto, vedi Dodge Viper e Ferrari GTO :down: :down:
- Aggiunta di una funzione per "riavvolgere" la gara ( questo può anche essere un pro )
- Mancanza di un editor per le partite in giocatore singolo: non puoi scegliere gli avversari, il grado di cattiveria ed il numero di giri...
- Il suono del motore non cambia quando installi un impianto di scarico diretto, anche i suoni delle auto da corsa sembrano "castrati" se paragonati a quelli di FM2...
- L'ombra delle auto a volte cambia di definizione da "statica" a "dinamica" senza motivo...
- Mancano molte animazioni nell'abitacolo delle auto, tipo cambiata e movimento dei manometri, anche se poi sono state aggiornate con le patch...
- Poche piste...

Sicuramente hai già fatto in tempo a vedere il tutto da te....però ci tenevo a farti partecipe di quello che penso io.

Se ti interessa, posso anche postare una mega-lista in inglese ( CHE HO PURE SPEDITO ALLA TURN10 ) per le migliorie da fare su FM4....eh si, stanno sviluppando Forza Motorsport 4, non è grandioso??? :sbav:
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Re: La serie di Forza Motorsport

Messaggio da minibond » dom 9 gen 2011, 20:04

FBV-86 ha scritto:
minibond ha scritto:in effetti sono intenzionato a prendere FM 2 o 3, ma dato che dici così penso di orientarmi più sul 2...
Siccome il 2 l'ho provato, quali sono le principali differenze tra il 2 e il 3?

Ovviamente lo comprerò solo dopo aver riparato i 3 led rossi della XBox...
minibond ha scritto:in effetti sono intenzionato a prendere FM 2 o 3, ma dato che dici così penso di orientarmi più sul 2...
Siccome il 2 l'ho provato, quali sono le principali differenze tra il 2 e il 3?

Ovviamente lo comprerò solo dopo aver riparato i 3 led rossi della XBox...
:-( sorry per la latitanza...

Ecco una rapida lista di genialate che Turn10 ha fatto con FM3...

- Visuale interna per tutte le auto...
- Migliorate le oscillazione dinamiche delle telecamere...
- Parco auto leggermente più interessante, mancano un sacco di Alfa ed altre auto buone ma sottovalutate...
- Migliorato l'editor per i trapianti e conversioni, ora è possibile convertire separatamente tipo di motore, tipo di trazione e tipo di sovralimentazione.
- Migliorata la fedeltà di alcuni suoni, specialmente per quanto riguarda le Muscle Car americane ( :sbav: :sbav: )
- Aggiunta di un paio di piste interessanti...
- Motore fisico più flessibile, meno prono a castigare gli errori di guida ( questo può essere anche un contro )
- Editor di verniciatura più accurato, ora è possibile regolare la saturazione ed il contrasto delle tinte.

Ed ecco la lista delle vaccate...

- Mappatura dei modelli fatta alla c***o su alcune auto, vedi Dodge Viper e Ferrari GTO :down: :down:
- Aggiunta di una funzione per "riavvolgere" la gara ( questo può anche essere un pro )
- Mancanza di un editor per le partite in giocatore singolo: non puoi scegliere gli avversari, il grado di cattiveria ed il numero di giri...
- Il suono del motore non cambia quando installi un impianto di scarico diretto, anche i suoni delle auto da corsa sembrano "castrati" se paragonati a quelli di FM2...
- L'ombra delle auto a volte cambia di definizione da "statica" a "dinamica" senza motivo...
- Mancano molte animazioni nell'abitacolo delle auto, tipo cambiata e movimento dei manometri, anche se poi sono state aggiornate con le patch...
- Poche piste...

Sicuramente hai già fatto in tempo a vedere il tutto da te....però ci tenevo a farti partecipe di quello che penso io.

Se ti interessa, posso anche postare una mega-lista in inglese ( CHE HO PURE SPEDITO ALLA TURN10 ) per le migliorie da fare su FM4....eh si, stanno sviluppando Forza Motorsport 4, non è grandioso??? :sbav:
Ah,l'ho visto su internet...

Comunque alla fine l'ho comprato (FM2) ed è STRAORDINARIO!!!!!

Nonostante la grafica, molto buona, ma senza molti antialiasing, e le inca**ature (ma quella è colpa mia che non ho molta pazienza dopo qualche ora di gioco... :lol2: ), è un bellissimo gioco, molto realistico!

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Messaggio da FBV-86 » dom 9 gen 2011, 21:39

minibond ha scritto:Nonostante la grafica, molto buona, ma senza molti antialiasing, e le inca**ature (ma quella è colpa mia che non ho molta pazienza dopo qualche ora di gioco... :lol2: ), è un bellissimo gioco, molto realistico!
E del sonoro che te ne pare?
A me fa accaponare la pelle, specie quando l'ho collegato al 5.1!!

Per quanto riguarda la scarsa pazienza: meglio, così giochi poco per volta e te lo godi di più, ma in casi estremi, puoi sempre barare se proprio non ti va di fare soldi in maniera pulita :frusta: :frusta: :frusta:

Ps.
della lista che ne faccio? La uppo? Non la uppo? Ti faccio sapere che è anche piena zeppa di auto interessanti su cui discutere se la cosa ti SFAGIOLA :festa: :lol:
Quasi quasi la uppo... :dubbi:
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Messaggio da minibond » dom 9 gen 2011, 22:26

Boh...
Tu uppala :lol2:

Per il sonoro, mi sembra buono, ma avendo i vicini di casa divisi da una SPECIE di muro e mia madre a casa, non l'ho potuto provare ad alto volume... e poi non ho un impianto stereo decente... :lol2:

Però di una Nissan Nonmiricordocosa (una in partenza arancione, un po' antica, che ho fatto diventare di classe S a partire da D) è bello! E anche della mia Lancia Delta da Rally! :lol2:

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Occhio, che questo post è luuuuuuuuuuuuungo....

Messaggio da FBV-86 » mar 11 gen 2011, 13:19

**NDFBV**
Alla fine ho deciso di postare solo la parte relativa al parco auto, perchè? Perchè altrimenti veniva troppo luuuuuuuuungo.
E poi non credo che in molti lo leggeranno già così com'è....comunque, buon dibattimento, se volete discutere sui modelli, se non conoscete alcuni di essi, o pensate che abbia sbagliato qualche punto di grammatica, fatemelo sapere
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Abarth
- Abarth is an hystoric Italian tuner strictly bond to to the FIAT car brand, there are many exceptions though such as the
Porsche 365GTL and the scratch-built Abarth SE 037 ( was the prototype of the Lancia Rally 037 )
Each car shown here deserves our attention, because all the Abarth's are well-known for being happiness dispensers.

1937 124 Abarth Rally
1960 356B GTL Abarth
1964 595 Abarth SS
1972 A112 Abarth
1974 Abarth SE 037
1976 131 Abarth Rally
1983 Ritmo 130 TC Abarth ( the "Ritmo" is known as "Strada" into the UK and USA markets, but this specifical model has been sold only in Italy )

AC Cars
- Hystoric British brand, later in the sixties it generated the base for most fearsome car ever known: the Ace Bristol.
During its evolution phase, it became the Ace Cobra and then Carrol Shelby dropped a 427 nascar engine in it, creating the amazing Shelby Cobra.

1956 AC Ace Bristol
1961 AC Ace 2.6
1962 AC Ace Cobra MkI
1979 AC 3000ME

Acura
- I don't see the reason to have Acura cas in Forza Motorsport, since they're just dopplengager of Honda's models.
Anyways, the sport prototype from LeMans series would be a must since its an unique model.

2009 Acura ARX-02a

Alfa Romeo
- One impressive Italian brand, was famous back in the past for its highly competitive and sporty models.
Alfa Romeo also scored many victories in the motorsports, and holds quite a great selection of sport cars over the time.

1963 Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ
1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA
1966 Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 ( A.K.A. Alfa Duetto )
1967 Alfa Romeo Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
1970 Alfa Romeo Montreal
1980 Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV6
1983 Alfa Romeo Alfa 33 Quadrifoglio Oro
1988 Alfa Romeo 75 IMSA GT ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1989 Alfa Romeo SZ ES-30
1993 Alfa Romeo 155 TI ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1995 Alfa Romeo 155 Turbo Q4
1997 Alfa Romeo 145 Quadrifoglio ( 2.0 Twin Spark )
1998 Alfa Romeo GTV 3.2 V6
2002 Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
2002 Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
2003 Alfa Romeo Kamal Concept ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2004 Alfa Romeo Alfa GT
2007 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione
2008 Alfa Romeo MiTo

Ariel Motor Company
- Missing an Ariel Atom into a game such as Forza Motorsport is like stuffing a muffin with mud.
There's no way to leave this masterpiece of British engeeniering out of the FM series.

2007 Ariel Atom V8

Artega
- Young German brand, the Artega GT is a sweet alternative to the classic Porsches, it has the look, the performance
and the spirt to earn its place in the Forza Motorsport series.

2009 Artega GT

Aston Martin
- Aston Martin offers a full array of classy sports cars from the early years to the modern era.
Personally, I think that the mid 90's models and the classic DB4 GT Zagato are a must have for every pistonhead.

1960 Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato
1974 Aston Martin V8 Vantage
1979 Aston Martin Bulldog Concept
1991 Aston Martin Virage
1994 Aston Martin DB7 Vantage
2004 Aston Martin DB9
2006 Aston Martin V8 Vantage
2007 Aston Martin Vanquish
2008 Aston Martin Racing DBR9 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )

Audi
- Champion of the 5 cylinder engines along with Volvo and holder of many important victories on the motorsport scene.
Audi features a great selection of veichles for many racing purposes such as 4wd rally cars and sport prototypes.

1974 Audi 50
1984 Audi Coupè GT Quattro
1985 Audi Sport Quattro S1 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork \ Convertable in the Pike's Peak edition )
1989 Audi Urquattro ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
1990 Audi S2
1992 Audi RS2 Avant
1993 Audi V8
1999 Audi TT 1.8 Turbo
1999 Audi R8R ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2001 Audi R8 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2003 Audi S4
2005 Audi Q7 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2006 Audi R8
2006 Audi R10 TDI ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2007 Audi S4
2008 Audi S3
2008 Audi Q5 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2008 Audi A4 DTM ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2009 Audi TT RS
2009 Audi R8 LMS ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2009 Audi R15 TDI ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2010 Audi E-Tron

Auto Union
- Hystoric brand, maker of the most radical racing machines back in the 40's.

1934 Type A ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1935 Type B ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1936 Type C ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1939 Type D ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )

Bentley
- Excellent producer of executive cars, for that matter, I would save more space for other kind of cars.
The Flying Spur and the Continental R are the most "sporty" models made by Bentley.

2001 Bentley Continental R
2003 Bentley Speed 8 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2005 Bentley Flying Spur

BMW
- Top class veichles, built for pure driving pleasure, BMW also competed in a wide variety racing disciplines.
Here's the list of the most thrilling and significative models ever made by this brand.

1971 BMW 3.0 CSL
1972 BMW 2002tii
1975 BMW 323i E21
1978 BMW M1
1983 BMW M6 E24
1991 BMW M3 E30
1991 BMW NAZCA C2 Concept
1993 BMW 850Csi ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1997 BMW 328ti Compact E36
1997 BMW M3 E36
1998 BMW Z8
1999 BMW Z3 M Coupe
1999 BMW V12 LMR ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2002 BMW M3-GTR
2004 BMW M3 E46 CSL
2005 BMW Motorsport M3-GTR ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2005 BMW M3 E46 GTR ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2007 BMW 135i E82
2008 BMW Z4 M Coupe
2008 BMW M3 E92
2008 BMW M3 E92 GTR ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2009 BMW M5 E60
2009 BMW X6 M ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2009 BMW M3 GT2 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2010 BMW X5 M ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )

Bowler Off Road
- A must have for the offroaders, the Bowler company builds-up dirt-tearing veichles based on Land Rover models.

2002 Bowler Wildcat Supercharged ( already fitted with lifted axles )
2009 Bowler Nemesis Supercharged ( already fitted with lifted axles )

Bristol
- The reason for I included this car in the list is because I am a Dodge Viper fanboy.
But, if I'd look at the Fighter with normal eyes, I shall say that it is a pretty epic machine regardless.

2006 Fighter T

British Racing Motors ( BRM )
- BRM made a bunch of unique racing cars, powered with heavenly-sounding-sixteen-cylindered engines.
Here's the selection of the most significative racing models made by BRM.

1950 BRM Type 15 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1966 BRM P83 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )

Bugatti
- Bugatti Veyron Bugatti Veyron Bugatti Veyron Bugatti Veyron Bugatti Veyron Bugatti Veyron Bugatti Veyron Bugatti Veyron
Kids only want Bugatti Veyron, that's why I decided to leave that car in the list, personally, I could not care less.

1957 Bugatti Type 252
1992 Bugatti EB110SS
2010 Bugatti Veyron EB 16.4

Chaparral
- One more classic from the good old racing days...Chaparral amazes with its sleek lines and the kinky wing on the 2F model.

1966 Chaparral 2D
1967 Chaparral 2F

Cadillac
- The american premium brand of excellence, maker of classy luxury cars, SUV's and an amazing supercar: the CIEN.

1960 Cadillac Eldorado Seville
1992 Cadillac Eldorado
2002 Cadillac CIEN
2007 Cadillac CTS
2008 Cadillac Escalade ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )

Callaway
- American Tuner, who made his fortune with the Corvette, one of its most impressive models is in fact based of a C4.

1985 Callaway C3 ( Alfa Romeo Twin Turbo GTV )
1989 Callaway C4 ( SledgeHammer Corvette, impressive and awesome machine from the 80's )
1993 Callaway C7 ( GT1 Corvette Racing Prototype )
1997 Callaway C12 ( C5 corvette )
2006 Callaway C16 ( C6 corvette )

Caparo
- The only one F1 car sporting a license plate, do I need to say more?

2007 Caparo T1

Caterham
- Caterham is where pure driving experience comes true: there is no super car or rally car which can stay ahead of one of these machines on a mountain pass, here's a list of the most interesting toys manufactured by Caterham.

1994 Caherham 21
2007 Caterham Levante
2008 Caterham X330
2009 Caterham R500 Superlight

Chevrolet
- Chevrolet offers everything a true pistonhead needs: hot compacts, muscle cars, off-road trucks and sportsters.
Here's a list of the most interesting models ever made by Chevy.

1959 Chevrolet Impala Hardtop Coupe
1960 Chevrolet Corvette C1 Convertible
1961 Chevrolet Mako shark II Concept
1966 Chevrolet Camaro SS ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1967 Chevrolet Corvette C2 Stingray
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS454 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1970 Chevrolet Corvette C3 Stingray
1974 Chevrolet K5 Blazer 350 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
1977 Chevrolet Aerovette Concept
1985 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1996 Chevrolet Corvette C4 GS
2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
2001 Chevrolet Silverado SST Concept ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2003 Chevrolet SSR
2004 Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
2006 Chevrolet Montecarlo SS
2006 Chevrolet TrailBlazer SS ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2006 Chevrolet Corvette C6.R ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2009 Chevrolet Camaro SS
2009 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray Concept
2009 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
2009 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR-1 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
2010 Chevrolet Cobalt SS
2010 Chevrolet Avalanche ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2011 Chevrolet Aveo RS Concept

Chrysler
- Although being a mother company, Chrysler has a very stricted array of interesting veichles to offer.
Personally, I would keep the pre-2000 models and the ME Four-Twelve for their unique look and characteristics.

1981 Chrysler Cordoba LS
1995 Chrysler Atlantic Concept
1997 Chrysler Phanteon Concept
2004 Chrysler ME Four-Twelve
2006 Chrysler Firepower
2008 Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6
2009 Chrysler 300C

Citroen
- Very underrated brand in many racing games, Citroen made some really great models back in the time and it has some
of the best superminis and compacts ever made, not to mention the rally cars such as the Xsara WRC and the BX 4TC group B.

1965 Citroen DS21 Cabriolet
1970 Citroen SM
1976 Citroen LN
1984 Citroen Visa Mille Pistes
1984 Citroen BX 4TC ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
1991 Citroen AX GTI
1991 Citroen ZX 16v
1997 Citroen Saxo VTS ( fully convertable into the Rally version via body-kit )
2004 Citroen C2 VTS ( fully convertable into the Rally version via body-kit )
2006 Citroen Xsara 2.0 16v
2007 Citroen Xsara WRC ( full race car, with blank paintwork/lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2009 GT ( Gt by Citroen)
2010 Citroen DS3

Cizeta Automobili
- Maker of a single amazing supercar, the Cizeta was a truly impressive machine and a must for every collector.

1994 Cizeta V16T

Carlsson
- One of the many newcomers in the "supercar scene" just wanted to inform you of that.

2010 C25

Dacia
- While the road models are not more interesting than a broken popsicle, the offroad prepared model is just delicious.

2009 Dacia Duster Racecar ( already fitted with lifted axles )

Daihatsu
- Surely a 660cc Kei car couldn't attract as many people as a 5.9 litre Ferrari GTB Fiorano.
But once tuned properly, the Kei cars can be really thrilling to drive, especially on hillclimbs and rallies.

1990 Daihatsu Cuore Avanzato TR-xx
1998 Daihatus Sirion Rally 4
2002 Daihatsu Copen K3-VE

Dauer
- In 1993 Dauer made a streetlegal car which is fully capable of leaving that overrated Bugatti Veyron in the dust.
And that's quite saying something.

1993 Dauer 962 Le Mans

De Tomaso
- Underrated car maker, De Tomaso has made plenty of unique and classy car back then...

1966 De Tomaso Mangusta
1972 De Tomaso Pantera GTS
1973 De Tomaso Longchamp GTS-E
1993 De Tomaso Guarà

Dodge
- True crest of the American power, Dodge made some of the most agressive and intimidatory machines ever known to mankind.
Not to mention the Dodge Viper in all of its forms: the most underrated car of the last decade.

1969 Dodge Charger 500 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1970 Dodge Challenger R\T ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1993 Dodge Viper RT\10 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1997 Dodge Sidewinder concept ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1997 Dodge Copperhead
1998 Dodge Viper GTS ( this should come with an Hennesey Venom and a GT2 body kit, drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1998 Dodge Viper GTS-R ( full-racing car, with blank paintwork )
1999 Dodge Durango SP360 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2000 Dodge Dakota R\T ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2003 Dodge Viper CC
2003 Dodge Viper CC Racer ( full-racing car, with blank paintwork )
2004 Dodge Viper SRT10 convertible ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
2005 Dodge SRT-4 ACR
2006 Dodge RAM SRT10
2006 Dodge Viper ASC Diamondback
2009 Dodge Viper SRT10 coupè ( this should come with an Hennesey Venom and a modern ACR body kit)
2010 Dodge Charger SRT-8
2010 Dodge Challenger SRT-8

DMC
- Added just because of its fame, adding "moviestar" machines would be a great idea.
Come on, face it: every single pistonhead in the world would love to build-up a race between KITT, the DeLorean and others.

1975 DMC DeLorean ( Back To The Future bodykit <----PLEASE???? )

Ferrari
- I think you guys are plenty educated to not being in the need of a description here.

1957 Ferrari 250 Testarossa
1962 Ferrari 250 GTO
1963 Ferrari 250 LM
1968 Ferrari 365 GTB Daytona
1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
1973 Ferrari 365 GT/4 BB
1975 Ferrari 308 GTB
1979 Ferrari 400i
1984 Ferrari 288 GTO
1985 Ferrari 288 GTO Evoluzione ( full-racing car, with blank paintwork )
1986 Ferrari F40 GT Evoluzione ( full-racing car, with blank paintwork )
1989 Ferrari Mythos Concept
1992 Ferrari 456 GT
1994 Ferrari F512 M
1995 Ferrari F50
1995 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
1996 Ferrari F355 F1
1998 Ferrari F50 GT1 ( full-racing car, with blank paintwork )
1999 Ferrari 360 Modena
2000 Ferrari Rossa Concept
2002 Ferrari Enzo
2003 Ferrari F360 Challenge
2004 Ferrari F430
2006 Ferrari FXX
2007 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano ( Convertable into the 2010's 599 GTBxx and the 2010's 599 GTO by using bodykits )
2008 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
2008 Ferrari California
2009 Ferrari 458 Italia
2012 Ferrari F70

Fiat
- The greatest models made by Fiat are all those from pre-90's era, these are a must for every true car intenditor.
An important note goes also to the Barchetta and the Coupe, the last two true Fiat Sportscars.

1956 Fiat 8V Zagato
1966 Fiat 850 Coupe
1971 Fiat 128 Rally
1975 Fiat 500R
1976 Fiat X1/9
1981 Fiat Ritmo 105TC ( Fiat Strada )
1989 Fiat Uno Turbo i.e.
1993 Fiat Tipo 2.0 i.e. 16v
1994 Fiat Cinquecento Sporting
1995 Fiat Punto GT
1997 Fiat Barchetta
1998 Fiat Bravo HGT
2000 Fiat Coupè 2.0 20v Turbo
2000 Fiat Seicento Sporting
2004 Fiat Stilo 2.4 20v Selespeed
2006 Fiat Suagnà by Bertone
2006 Fiat Panda 100 HP
2008 Fiat Bravo 1.4 Turbo Jet 16V
2009 Fiat Punto Evo 1.4 Multiair Turbo

Ford
- Producer of a wide array of vehicles: hot hatches, sporsters, grand tourer, offroaders, supercars, you ask it, Ford bids.
Ford has also produced many models specifical for the Australian market, but to make it simpler, I have listed them allin a single group...there's no doubt: every single model listed here, deserve to be in the FM series.

1955 Ford Thunderbird
1962 Ford Mustang I Concept
1963 Ford Cortina Lotus
1964 Ford Mustang MkI ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1967 Ford Mustang GT Fastback ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1968 Ford GT40 Mk III Stradale
1969 Ford Torino Talladega ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1970 Ford GT70
1970 Ford Escort RS1600 ( Mk I )
1971 Ford Capri RS2600
1973 Ford Falcon XB GT Coupe (Aussie market) ( you know what to do for what concerns bodykits here MadMax V8 Interceptor)
1984 Ford RS200 Stradale
1987 Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth
1991 Ford Fiesta RS Turbo
1993 Ford Escort Cosworth ( Mk IV )
1995 Ford Escort 2.0 RS ( Mk V )
1995 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1995 Ford GT90 Concept
1995 Ford Supervan 3 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1996 Ford Indigo Concept
1997 Ford Probe GTS
1999 Ford Racing Puma
1999 Ford Mondeo ST200
1999 Ford Mustang FR500 Concept
2001 Ford F-150 SVT Lighting ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2003 Ford StreetKa 1.6
2003 Ford Focus RS
2004 Ford Bronco Concept ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2005 Ford Focus ST
2005 Ford Shelby GR1 Concept
2005 Ford GTX1 Concept
2006 Ford Falcon FPV F6 Typhoon (Aussie market) (BA II)
2008 Ford Crown Victoria Special Edition
2008 Ford Fusion Stock Car ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2009 Ford Focus RS
2009 Ford Falcon V8 Supercar Racer (Aussie market) ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2009 Ford Mustang Giugiaro Concept
2010 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )

Fornasari
- Almost unknown Italian supercar maker.
The RR600 is probably the only SUV on earth which would be perfectly capable to keep-up with a Lamborghini Murcielago.

2006 Fornasari LM 6.0
2009 Fornasari RR600

GMC
- This brand probably made its fortune with heavy duty trucks and buses, but not too many people are aware of the Syclone.
That bad boy spanked the ass of several sportcars back in the nineteens, right on the quarter mile acceleration, pretty impressive for a truck!

1991 GMC Syclone ( drag/lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )

Gumpert
- Maker of one heartbreaking supercar: the Apollo, this model does not require too much explainations...

2005 Apollo

Holden
- Holden cars were never competitive as american sports cars, or ego-filling as european super cars.
So, why adding them? That's simple: FUN! Each model listed here is fun, wheter to drive or simply to watch it sitting there.

1969 Holden HT Monaro GTS 350 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1993 Holden HSV Senator ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
2007 Holden HSV Maloo R8 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
2007 Holden HSV Monaro Clubsport R8
2009 Holden Commodore VE V8 Supercar Racer ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )

Honda
- Maker of good ( yet usually owned by annoying people ) hot hatches, and the mighty NSX.
Honda has made also many interesting super compacts back in the seventies, so, don't go overboard with all the 209
variations of that annoying and over rated Civic, and give some more consideration to those old classics!

1964 Honda S600 Roadster
1966 Honda S800 Racing Car ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
1973 Honda 145 Coupe
1988 Honda CR-X SiR
1992 Honda NSX Type-R
1994 Honda Prelude SR-V
1994 Honda Civic Del-Sol SiR
1994 Honda Accord Touring Car ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
1995 Honda Integra Type-R
1997 Honda Civic Type-R
1999 Honda S2000
2001 Honda Accord Type-R
2008 Honda S2000 CR
2008 Honda Civic Mugen RC ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
2000 Honda NSX Mugen RR Concept
2009 Honda NSX Super GTC car ( full race car, with blank paintwork )

Hyundai
- If you say Hyundai to a videogamer kid, he will say: TIBURON! Nope, the Tiburon, and that bus of the Genesis are not the
only and most interesting models made by Hyundai, there are also rally cars, hot hatches and SUVS that deserve more attention!

2000 Hyundai Coupe RD2 ( Tiburon / Tuscani Elisa )
2005 Hyundai Coupe GK ( Tiburon / Tuscani Elisa )
2010 Hyundai Accent SR Hatchback
2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 track
2010 Hyundai Santa FE ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )

Hummer
- Hummer will be a must, if off-road and dirt races will be implemented in the future FM.
And If you think that Hummer is nothing less than a "seaside stroll machine" the Dakar Rally H3 is ready to prove you the opposite.

1992 Hummer H1 6.5 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2003 Hummer H2 6.0 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2005 Hummer H3 3.7 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2006 Hummer Dakar Rally H3 ( already fitted with lifted axles )

Iso Rivolta
- While this is not a popular brand among most of the car enthusiasts, especially the younglings, Iso Rivolta offers a very
exclusive selection of classy and powerful sports cars, a must for every true car internditor.

1967 IR 300 GT Coupe
1873 IR-6 GT Sport 5800
1972 IR-8 (a.k.a. Grifo 7 Litri)

Iveco
- Similar topic as for the Hummer and other "non-common-cars" in this list, if Truck-Racing will be added, Iveco would be a "must" for us.
The recently re-introduced Iveco Campagnola ( named after the old Fiat Campagnola ) would be also a great off-road competitor for the American, Asian and other European SUVs

2002 Iveco Stralis racing truck ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
2008 Iveco Campagnola ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2009 Iveco Strator Racing Truck ( full race car, with blank paintwork )

Jeep
- See Hummer description...

1994 Jeep Wrangle YJ Renegade ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
1997 Jeep Wrangler TJ ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2007 Jeep Trailhawk Concept ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )

Jensen
- Hystorical British maker, also, producer of the first non off-road car equipped with a four wheel drive system, the Interceptor FF.

1963 Jensen CV8 ( Mk II )
1966 Jensen Interceptor FF
1972 Jensen Haley

Koenigsegg
- I'm Quite sure that this one does not require a description\motivation to have its cars included in Forza Motorsport.

2002 Koenigsegg CC8S
2007 Koenigsegg CCGT ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
2011 Koenigsegg Agera

KTM Sportmotorcycle
- Mostly known in the motorcycle industry...in the 2008, KTM decided to produce its first car, and what a car!
The X-BOW fits itself right between the Catheram RS500 and the Ariel Atom: enough said!

2008 KTM X-BOW

Lamborghini
- Do I really need to put a description in there?
Just look within, and ask yourself if it is really necessary to waste room for 4 variations of the Murcielago.
Just put in the top version of it, and bid some room to the classic models such as the Jota, the 350GTV and even the LM002.

1963 Lamborghini 350GTV
1970 Lamborghini Jota P400
1971 Lamborghini Miura P400SV
1985 Lamborghini Countach 5000QV
1986 Lamborghini LM002 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
1995 Lamborghini Diablo SE30
1995 Lamborghini Cala Concept
2006 Lamborghini Miura Concept
2007 Lamborghini Reventon
2008 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4
2009 Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SV

Lancia
- Lancia's license was not fully exploited in the previous FM issues, Lancia has way more to offer than just the
Stratos HF and the Delta Integrale Evoluzione, here's a list of the most radical rides ever made by this manufacturer.

1970 Lancia Stratos Concept ( a.k.a. Zagato Dome / a.k.a. Zero )
1971 Lancia Fulvia Sport Zagato II
1972 Lancia 2000 HF Coupè
1973 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale
1974 Lancia Stratos HF Rally ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1975 Lancia Beta Montecarlo
1978 Lancia Beta Montecarlo Turbo ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1982 Lancia Rally 037 Stradale
1982 Lancia Rally 037 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1983 Lancia LC2 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1985 Lancia Delta S4 Stradale
1985 Lancia Delta S4 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1986 Lancia Thema 8.32
1988 Lancia Delta ECV2 Concept ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1991 Lancia Delta Integrale Evoluzione Gr.A ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1992 Lancia Delta Martini 6
1992 Lancia Hyena Zagato
2003 Lancia Fulvia Concept

Land Rover
- Land Rover license was not fully exploited in Forza Motorsport 3.
Here's a list of the most significative models made by Land Rover over the years.

1970 Land Rover Range Rover Classic 3.5 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
1995 Land Rover Discovery Td5 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2007 Land Rover Defender 90 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2008 Land Rover Range Rover Sport ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )

Lightning Car Company
- Same story as for the Carlsson brand: a new supercar has popped-up, so most of your audience will expect to see it in FM.
Personally I couldn't care less...

2010 Lightning GT

Lister Cars Ltd
- I used to call them the "Devil's Machine" that describes the Storm V12 pretty well, there's no way to leave it behind.
The classic model Sunbeam Alpine also looks good, and it would make a great competitor for other classic cars in the list.

1963 Lister Sunbeam Alpine
1993 Lister Storm V12
1994 Lister Storm GTR ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )

Lola Cars
- Another legendary competitor from the CANAM and old school LeMans era.

1965 Lola T70 MkI ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )

Lotus
- As my personal opinion, Lotus deserves the same attention of Ferrari, especially the totally overlooked FWD Elans.

1962 Lotus Elan Sprint
1966 Lotus Europa Type 47
1990 Lotus Elan M100
1991 Lotus Elan M200
1992 Lotus Carlton
1994 Lotus Esprit S4
1996 Lotus Esprit GT1 V8 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2000 Lotus 340R
2006 Lotus Europa S
2007 Lotus 2-Eleven
2008 Lotus Evora
2010 Lotus Elise Sport 135R
2010 Lotus Exige S260 Cup

Maserati
- Maserati made the most thrilling models back in the old times, personally, I would focus on all the pre-2000 models...

1956 Maserati 450S ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1967 Maserati Ghibli
1971 Maserati Bora
1991 Maserati Barchetta Racing
1996 Maserati Ghibli II GT
1998 Maserati 3200 GT Assetto Corsa
2004 Maserati MC12
2007 Maserati Gran Sport
2011 Maserati GranTurismo

Matra
- Maker of classic and sportful machines, Matra offers some classy Grand Tourers, Sport prototype cars and off-roaders.

1965 Matra Djet
1967 Matra 530
1969 Matra MS80 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1973 Matra Simca Bagheera
1972 Matra MS670B ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1977 Matra Rancho X ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
1980 Matra Murena

Mazda
- Blessed with the Wankel technology, the RX series of the Mazda are truly fascinating machines.
Not to mention the playful Miata ( MX ) series, these are known as the most addicting low-range roadsters ever made.

1971 Mazda RX-3
1983 Mazda RX-7 GSL
1989 Mazda MX-5
1990 Mazda 787b ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1990 Mazda Cosmo
1992 Mazda Savanna RX-7 Turbo
1999 Mazda RX-7 Type RZ
2002 Mazda MX-5 Mazdaspeed
2003 Mazda RX-8 Mazdaspeed
2006 Mazda MX-5 2.0
2008 Mazda Furai Concept
2009 Mazda MX-5 Superlight

McLaren
- One more brand that does not require a description...

1967 McLaren M6A ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1971 McLaren M20 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1992 McLaren F1 ( fully convertable into the LM edition via bodykit )
1997 McLaren F1 GTR "long tail" ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )

Mercedes Benz
- How do I look classy and go fast at the same time? Buy an Merceds-Benz AMG: big toys for big boys.
Surely not thrlling as a Louts on a racetrack, but the sporting AMG models are the muscle cars of Europe: charming.

1930 Mercedes-Benz W125 Rekordwagen
1954 Mercedes-Benz 300SL
1969 Mercedes-Benz C111 experimental vehicle
1986 Mercedes-Benz 300E 5.6 AMG **Hammer**
1988 Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5 Evo II
1990 Mercedes-Benz G55 AMG 2-door ( A.K.A. W463 ) ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
1995 Mercedes-Benz SL73 AMG
1997 Mercedes-Benz SLK 55 AMG
2003 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren
2007 Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2008 Mercedes-Benz CLS 63 AMG
2009 Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series
2010 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG

Mitsubishi
- Another colossus, Mitsubishi Motors offers so many kind of veichles, from compacts hot hatches to big offroaders.

1974 Mitsubishi Lancer 1600 GSR ( fully convertable into the official rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1980 Mitsubishi Lancer EX 2000 Turbo ( fully convertable into the official rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1990 Mitsubishi Starion
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
1995 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III GSR
1996 Mitsubishi FTO GPX
1997 Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
1997 Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR-4
2001 Mistubishi Lancer Evo VI WRC ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
2005 Mistubishi L200 Dakar Rally ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
2008 Mitusbishi Lancer Evo IX MR FQ-360
2010 Mistubishi Lancer Evo X FQ-400

Mosler Automotive
- Indipendent manufacturer, the beastly MT900 came in various version, street-legal and full-race.

2003 Mosler MT900S
2006 Mosler MT900R GT3 ( full race car, with blank paintwork )

Nissan
- Nissan produces a wide array of veichles, pure off-roaders, track day machines, hot compacts, sportsters, and so on...
Here's a list of the most interesting models ever made by Nissan.

1969 Nissan Skyline GT-R ( KPGC10 )
1969 Nissan Datsun 260Z ( Nissan Fairlady Z )
1976 Nissan Datsun 1200 Coupé (B110)
1984 Nissan 300ZX Turbo ( Z31 )
1983 Nissan 240 RS rally car ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1985 Nissan GTP ZX-Turbo ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
1988 Nissan March Super Turbo
1989 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo ( Z32 )
1990 Nissan Pulsar GTI-R
1994 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II ( R32 )
1996 Nissan 180SX Type R
1996 Nissan Almera GTi
1997 Nissan SKyline 400R ( R33 )
1997 Nissan Hadrbody 4WD ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
1997 Nissan March ( K11C )
1998 Nissan R390 GT1 ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
1998 Nissan Almera Kit-car ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1999 Nissan R391 ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
1999 Nissan Primera GTSE
1999 Nissan Sivlia Spec-R ( S15 )
2000 Nissan Xterra XE ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2002 Nissan Skyline Nur ( R34 )
2003 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V
2005 Nissan 350Z NISMO S-Tune GT
2005 Nissan 350 Super GTC car ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
2008 Nissan Titan Crew Cab ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2008 Nissan GT-R Super GTC car ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
2009 Nissan GT-R Spec V ( R35 )
2010 Nissan 370Z NISMO


Noble Automotive Ltd
- Another brand that seems to be totally overlooked in games, sharp but clean lines and speed in one.

2004 Noble M-14
2006 Noble M-15
2007 Noble M400
2009 Noble M600

Opel
- Opel featured, and features, many interesting models as rally cars, sport cars and more, here's the reccomendation list.

1969 Opel GT
1979 Opel Manta 400 Rally ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
1981 Opel Ascona 400 Rally ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
1988 Opel Kadett GSi ( Kdaett E )
1991 Opel Calibra 4x4 Turbo
1994 Opel Tigra 1.6 16v
1994 Opel Calibra DTM ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
1996 Opel Astra GSi ( Astra F)
1998 Opel Frontera 3.2 V6 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
1999 Opel Astra OPC
2000 Opel Astra DTM ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
2001 Opel Zafira OPC
2004 Opel Tigra Twin Top
2007 Opel Corsa OPC

Osella
- Italian racing cars manufacturer, Osella is very popular into the hillclimbing scene.

2000 Osella PA20 ( full race car, with blank paintwork )

Pagani Automobili
- One of the fastest and most beautiful supercars, that describes right what the only model produced by Pagani is: the Zonda.

2005 Pagani Zonda GT ( full race car, with blank paintwork )
2008 Pagani Zonda Cinque
2009 Pagani Zonda R

Palmer Sport Cars
- Being in the same league of the Radicals and the Ariel Atom, gives this sharp sporty babe the right to be in the FM series.

2005 Jaguar Palmer JP1

Panoz
- Pre-2000 models are just plain gorgeous, no modern roadster can match the silkness of the AIV and no modern GT would look meaner than the GTR-1, ah....the nostalgia of the good old 90's.

1997 Panoz Esperante GTR-1 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1999 Panoz AIV Roadster
2000 Panoz LMP01 Evo ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2006 Panoz Esperante

Peugeot
- Maker of great hot hatches all over the time, and holder of many victories on the motorsport scene, especially, rallies.

1978 Peugeot 305 GTX
1986 Peugeot 205 1.9 Gti
1986 Peugeot 205 T16 Stradale ( fully convertable into the official rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1988 Peugeot 405 T16 Stradale ( fully convertable into the official rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1991 Peugeot 505 Turbo Wagon
1993 Peugeot 905 EVO 1C ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1993 Peugeot 306 S16 ( fully convertable into the official rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1993 Peugeot 106 Rallye 1.3 ( fully convertable into the official rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1996 Peugeot 106 Rallye 1.6 ( fully convertable into the official rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1996 Peugeot 406 3.0 V6
2002 Peugeot RC Concept
2003 Peugeot 206 RC ( fully convertable into the official rally version via bodykit )
2003 Peugeot 206 CC
2004 Peugeot 307 CC
2007 Peugeot Flux Concept
2007 Peugeot 908 HDi ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2010 Peugeot SR1 Concept

Plymouth
- Deceased brand, strictly bond with Dodge, and thus Chrysler.
Plymouth has produced some "evil" muscle cars, not to mention the classic moviestar car Plymouth Fury and the sexy Prowler.

1958 Plymouth Fury
1968 Plymouth Road Runner 426 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1970 Plymouth Superbird 426
1974 Plymouth Hemi Cuda 426 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1998 Plymouth Prowler

Pontiac
- Pontiac license was put to good work in FM3, there are a few cars though which I'd like to suggest...

1954 Pontiac Bonneville Special
1969 Ponitac GTO ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1972 Pontiac Firebird 455-HO ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1985 Pontiac Fiero STE
1989 Pontiac Firebird GTA ( you guys know what to do with bodykits here ;-) cough...coughKnightRiderReplicaBodykitcough...)
2002 Pontiac Firebird Trans-AM Ram Air
2006 Pontiac GTO
2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP

Porsche
- Not too much to improve here, you guys did a great job with gathering the most thrilling models made by Porsche.
Here's my rebuilt suggestion list though, it mainly adds a bunch of underestimated models which are truly interesting.

1951 Porsche 360 Cisitalia
1953 Porsche 356 Roadster
1968 Porsche 908 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1971 Porsche 917 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
1976 Porsche 912E
1976 Porsche 936 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1982 Porsche 956 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1984 Porsche 962C ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1992 Porsche 911 Turbo Type 964
1995 Porsche 911 GT2 (993)
2008 Porsche 911 GT2 (997)
2007 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997)
2008 Porsche 911 GT3-RSR (997) ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2009 Porsche Cayman S
2009 Porsche Cayenne Transsyberia ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2009 Porsche Cayenne GTS ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )


Radical Sportscars
- Sharp killing...err, racing machines, ranging right from the Ariel Atom league to the highest ranks of the LeMans sport prototypes league.

2002 Radical SR3 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2006 Radical SR9 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )

Renault
- Renault didn't made only hot hatches ( just as depicted in FM3 ) there are also quite a kinky selection of tourers, coupes and MPVs.
Yes, for MPV I refer to the Espace F1, are you going to leave the exclusive of having it only to Gran Turismo?

1959 Renault Alpine A108
1962 Renault 8 S ( fully convertable into the rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1965 Renault R8 Gordini ( fully convertable into the rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1969 Renault Alpine A110 ( fully convertable into the rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1973 Renault Alpine A310 Boulogne ( fully convertable into the rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1975 Renault Alpine A442B ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1980 Renault R5 Turbo ( fully convertable into the rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1990 Renault Alpine GTA V6 Le Mans
1991 Renault Alpine A610
1992 Renault 19 16v
1993 Renault Clio Williams
1993 Renault Laguna 3.0 ( fully convertable into the WTCC version via bodykit and upgrades )
1995 Renault Espace F1 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1996 Renault Spider
2002 Renault Clio V6
2006 Renault Clio 2.0 Sport RS
2007 Renault Megane F1 Team R26
2008 Renault Twingo RS
2009 Renault Megane RS

Rover & MG Cars
- Rover and MG seems to be not catalyzing enough interest, too bad, because both of these always made great cars which
deserve their place in a game such as Forza Motorsport, here's a list of the most addicting MG and Rover models.

1964 Mini Cooper S ( fully convertable into the rally version via bodykit and upgrades )
1976 Rover SD1 Vitesse V8
1984 MG Metro 6R4 ( full-racing car, with blank paintwork )
1989 MG Maestro Turbo
1990 Rover 400
1992 Rover Vitesse
1994 Rover 114 Gti
2002 MGF
2003 MG ZR 160
2004 MG Power SV

Saab
- I hardly understand by which prompt did you made your selection of the Saab veichles in the previous FM chapters...
Go back in time, Saab has produced sweet cars back then, it also competed in rallies.

1949 Saab 92
1955 Saab Sonett I
1965 Saab Sport
1968 Saab Sonett V4 ( Sonett II )
1970 Saab Sonett III
1978 Saab 99 Turbo Rally
1984 Saab 900 Turbo SPG
1993 Saab 9000 Aero
2006 Saab Aero-X concept
2007 Saab 9-3 Turbo X

Scania AB
- See the Iveco description...

2004 Scania R730 Racing Truck ( full-racing car, with blank paintwork )

Scion
- I'm not too sure why Scion should have to be included in FM, but I may assume: fashion matters.
On the other hand, Scion cars would make a good tuner basis, so, why limiting them to two bodykits? Give them more.

2005 Scion tC RS 1.0
2007 Scion xD RS 1.0
2010 Scion tC ( fully convertable into the 2010's SCCA WorldChallenge Touring Car )

Seat
- Seat had a strong bond with the FIAT car company and then with the Volkswagen group, the most interesting models came
within the VW era, the iconic compact car of this brand, the Seat Ibiza, was also a great rally car back in the 90's.

1977 Seat 1430 Sport
1991 Seat Toledo 2.0 16v
1996 Seat Ibiza 2.0 16v
1997 Seat Ibiza S1600 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
1998 Seat Cordoba WRC ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2000 Seat Cordoba 2.0
2001 Seat Toledo VR5
2001 Seat Tango Concept
2003 Seat Cupra GT
2005 Seat Leon Cupra TFSI
2006 Seat Leon Cupra R ( full-racing car, with blank paintwork )
2008 Seat Ibiza FR

Shelby
- Daughter of the mighty Carrol Shelby, the Shelby Automobiles bids to us some of the scarier muscle cars of the world.

1964 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe
1966 Shelby GT350 H ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1967 Shelby A\C Cobra
1968 Shelby GT500E ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1999 Shelby Series 1
2008 Shelby GT500 ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
2010 Shelby Terlingua

Skoda
- Skoda offers a strict range of hot hatches and saloons, but the truth is that they're really fun to live with.
The rally compacts are just dope and they can keep up with monsters such as the Peugeot 207 S2000 and the Impreza WRC.

1977 Skoda S110R
1995 Skoda Felicia 1.6
2004 Skoda Fabia WRC ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2004 Skoda Octavia RS
2009 Skoda Fabia S2000 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )

Spyker Cars
- Supercar maker, the Spykers are truly fascinating machines, they also compete in the GT2 FIA GT class.

2000 Spyker C8 Double 12S
2008 Spyker C12 Zagato
2010 SPyker C8 Aileron

Subaru
- Two words for you: Impreza and STI...nope! There are also many forgotten and never loved Subarus that are waiting for
being re-discovered by those tasteless youngsters, the Justy for example, is one of the most kinky hot hatch I ever seen.

1975 Subaru Leone 1400 GSR
1988 Subaru Justy 4WD
1992 Subaru Impreza WRX STi Type RA
1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi
2000 Subaru Baja 1000 Racing Truck ( already fitted with lifted axles )
2000 Subaru Impreza WRC P2000 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork/lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2008 Subaru Impreza GTC 300 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )

Suzuki
- Manufacturer of sporty compacts and superminis, Suzuki also holds quite a nice selection of off-roaders such as
production line SUV's and the montrous Dirt Trial car named Suzuki Escudo.

1991 Suzuki Cappuccino
1998 Suzuki Escudo Dirt Trial Car ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2006 Suzuki SX4 2.0
2009 Suzuki Swift Sport
2009 Suzuki Equator V6 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )

Tesla Motors
- Holder of the best electric sports car ever produced since now, the Tesla Roadster might not appeal to the true pistonheads
due to is "soundless" engine, but it has all what it takes to get its place in Forza Motorsport.

2008 Telsa Roadster

Toyota
- Toyota license was really goodly-exploited in FM3, here's a nice way to improve it furtherly.

1967 Toyota 2000 GT
1981 Toyota Celica Supra
1984 Toyota Land Cruiser 70 Light
1986 Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT-S
1986 Toyota MR2 AW11
1988 Toyota Supra Turbo A
1989 Toyota Celica GT-Four Rally ( Wide body edition) ( fully convertable into the rally version )
1993 Toyota T100 TRD
1993 Toyota Supra RZ ( drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
1994 Toyota Celica GT-4 ( fully convertable into the rally version )
1998 Toyota Corolla AE112R ( fully convertable into the rally version )
1998 Toyota TRD2000 GT
1999 Toyota GT-ONE TS020 ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2001 Toyota RAV4 2.4 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2003 Toyota Celica SS-I
2004 Toyota Tundra 4.7 V8 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2004 Toyota Supra Super GTC car ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2004 Toyota Alessandro Volta concept
2004 Toyota MR2 Super GTC car ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2005 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2005 Toyota Camry TS-01
2006 Toyota FJ Cruiser
2008 Toyota Aygo Crazy concept
2008 Toyota Soarer SC430 Super GTC car ( full-race car, with blank paintwork )
2009 Toyota FT-86 Concept


Triumph
- Another hystoric and dead British brand, describing Triumphs as classy machines does not give them any justice.
Therefore dear sir, these elegant machines would be a most appreciated addition for the classic cars based events.

1966 Triumph GT6
1968 Tirumph Stag
1973 Triumph Spitfire 1500
1977 Triumph TR8

TVR
- Producer of many interesting lightweight sportscars, TVR has much more than the modern Sagaris and Tuscans to offer.

1962 TVR Grantura MKIII
1966 TVR Griffith 400
1974 TVR 3000M
1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
2000 TVR Gtiffith 500 SE
2003 TVR Cerbera Speed 8
2004 TVR Typhon
2006 TVR Sagaris Speed Six

Ultima Sports LTD
- A finest British sportscar manufacturer, producing one of the most heart-braking street-legal car of every time.
The Ultima GTR is a must for every true pistonhead.

2008 Ultima GTR

Vector Motors Corporation
- This brand is famous for its highly-advanced supercars, all the pre-2000 models are pure gold.

1980 Vector W2
1990 Vector W8
1995 Vector M12
2007 Vector WX8

Venturi Automobiles
- Underrated French brand, Venturi's Atlantique and 400GT are loosely based off the classic Lotus Esprit, that's saying it all.
The 2001 Fetish Concept would be a great competitor for the Tesla Roadster.

1990 Venturi 300 Atlantique
1998 Venturi 400 GT
2001 Venturi Fetish Concept

Volkswagen
- One of the most popular brand in the whole world, featuring a wide array of veichles.
Here's a list of the most rare and kinky rides ever produced by Volkswagen.

1955 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1966 Volkswagen Type1 ( yes, this is the original Vw Beetle )
1972 Volkswagen 1300 ( another Vw Beetle model, fully convertable into the timeless Baja-Bug )
1974 VOlkswagen Scirocco ( Mk I )
1974 Volkswagen Golf GTI ( Mk I )
1989 Volkswagen GOlf G60 ( Mk II )
1990 Volkswagen Golf Country GTI ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
1991 Volkswagen Golf VR6 ( Mk III )
1992 Volksawgen Jetta VR6 ( A.K.A. Vento )
1992 Volkswagen Corrado VR6
1997 Volkswagen W12
1998 Volkswagen New Beetle ( convertable in many versions such as the All-Road beetle and the Cup Beetle )
2001 Volkswagen Lupo GTi ( fully convertable into the 2001's Cup Car )
2004 Volkswagen Race Touareg ( already fitted with lifted axles )
2004 Volkswagen Passat 4Motion W8
2004 Volkswagen Golf R32 (Mk IV)
2004 Volkswagen Eos 2.0 TSI
2007 Volkswagen Golf GTI Pirelli Edition ( Mk V )
2007 Volkswagen Golf GTI W12-650 ( Mk V, drag axles conversion is possible on this car )
2007 Volkswagen Passat R36
2007 Volkswagen Touareg R50 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2007 Volkswagen Cross Polo
2008 Volkswagen Scirocco R ( Mk III, fully convertable into the 2008's GT24 race car)
2009 Volkswagen Polo GTI
2009 Volksawgen Amarok TDI ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2009 Volkswagen Concept BlueSport
2009 Volkswagen Golf R (Mk VI)
2010 Volkswagen Jetta Turbo FSI
2010 Volkswagen Polo GTI

Volvo
- Classy brand, Volvo also scored a bunch of victories back in the motorsport history, especially in the rally discipline.
Car selection goes from compact sportsters to executive models and SUVs, offering a good choice range for many players.

1956 Volvo Amazon
1957 Volvo P1800 S Coupe
1985 Volvo 240 Turbo
1988 Volvo 480 Turbo
1995 Volvo 850 T-5R
1998 Volvo FH Racing Truck ( full-racing car, with blank paintwork )
2001 Volvo C70 Coupe Turbo
2004 Volvo S60 R
2005 Volvo T6 Concept
2009 Volvo XC90 V8 ( lifted axles conversion is possible on this car )
2010 Volvo C30

Westfield
- Birtish maker, specialized into fether-wheighted veichles.
The Megabusa can be easily labeled as the RS500's twisted twin.

1982 Westfield Eleven
2002 Westfield Megabusa
2005 Westfield XTR 4
2005 Westfield Sport 2000 S

Yes!
- Indipendent German manufacturer, the nimble Roadster is fitted with a powerful 3.2 that grants quite a punch!

2006 Yes! Roadster 3.2

Zenvo
- A young Danish brand, its unique model has all what it takes to compete against the most renowed supercars.

2009 Zenvo ST1
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Piste aggiuntive ( finalizzate / ufficiali ) : 67 / 71
Locandine Eventi ( finalizzate / ufficiali ) : 134 / 150
Medagliette Achievements ( finalizzate / ufficiali ) : 36 / 89

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Re: La serie di Forza Motorsport

Messaggio da TheFactor82 » mar 11 gen 2011, 13:56

Ti ho messo il post nello Spoiler Fbv, se no davvero sta pagina non finiva più! :lol2:
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10 Settembre 2000: Monza - ITA (F1)
24-25 Aprile 2004: Imola - RSM (F1)
07 Ottobre 2007: Monza - ITA (WTCC)
31 Agosto 2008: Misano - ITA (MOTOGP/250/125)
05-07 Settembre 2008: Spa Francorchamps - BEL (F1)
20-22 Luglio 2012: Hockenheimring - GER (F1)
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Re: La serie di Forza Motorsport

Messaggio da Revoltino » mar 11 gen 2011, 14:22

Bella lista,ci sono certe auto che avrei voluto provare
in Gran Turismo(Noble,Ariel Atom),ma che non ci sono. :cry:

Alcune marche sono letteralmente copiate dal 4,come la Cizeta
(mai vista in un gioco di corse prima d'ora :-? ).

Chissà com'è l'Auto Union. :lol:
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